Discussion in 'Striper, Blues, Cod, Haddock, Hake, Sharks' started by ChrisXL64, May 26, 2015.
Please let us know how they work.
I have had pretty good luck with circles ive been using them for a while now ive a had 300 plus lb makos and a hammerhead pushing 400 on them .. My fav to use is a 16/0 and 18/0 Lp with offsets but ive also had luck with 18/0 and 20/0 non offset mustads... They have there plus and minuses but once there hooked they usually stay on and another plus is your not gut hooking small makos ...
this is the hook I have had not such good luck with
it is a 18/0 lp
somehow I think the leader gets tangled up in the teeth and pulls the hook out the front of the mouth and doesn't allow the hook to make it to the corner
surprised others have had good luck with them. must be something with my setup, usually rig them on 400 mono
I bet the crimp is interfering with the hook set.
We have had very good luck with the Mustads on single strand wire in 18/0 and 20/0.
never tried one on wire, thought that is the reason for using them in the first place, so you don't need it.
could be the reason, the crimp may be catching on something and interfering
will have to try a short 3 ft piece this season
I will say the mono gets more hits on most days when that rig is in the water. almost like they are leader shy
We run a small 5-6 foot leader to a swivel then the 400 mono.
Works real well.
How long is that crimp?
I use the same as el mar 4 to 6 ft of single strand and 400 lb mono
You guys using wind ons with the 400? IE some kind of loop to loop with the main line?
I've always used 49 strand to a big swivel on either end; and 2 foot of wire off of that to the hook. Considering switching to mono.
I'm not using wind ons I would if I didn't have roller guides but I'm just replacing the 400 lb mono instead of cable
No wind on. Palomar to barrel swivel on 400 mono.
Keep it simple.
I use wind ons, keeps it easy can wind the fish right in to the tip if just using mono if not 3' off. Easy as hell on the crew no need to worry about who goes for the leader if it's a busy day with lots of fish.
Im new to the circle hook idea. Im not a big fan of circle hooks at all !! Im old school. I was at trophy Tackle today to try to understand the set up. I like the mono idea alot. bought some 300lb leaders all riged up. I took a package od Eagle L2045M 20/0. figured Ill start there. Any thoughts open to any help.
I finally got out yesterday and gave the Mustad 39960D some testing.
I was looking for a Mako and started with my usual J hook rigs, not wanting to experiment on a Mako hookup if possible.
Turned out that we were covered in Blue Sharks so eventually we went to the circle hook since most of my "J"s were gone.
I have mixed reviews from my short test. I hooked the first one cleanly, started with a light drag, let him run and socked up the drag when the run was steady. The Blue was hooked in the corner of the mouth and I was able to get the hook back with some effort.
After the first one, we had a lot of pickups where the Blue's dropped the bait. This did not happen with the J hooks.
We hooked a couple more Blue's that swallowed the circle hook. The last one had our hook in it's belly and a rusting J hook in the corner of its mouth.
I'll try again and see what happens. I'd guess that the circles will work ok if used properly on aggressive hookups but they're a problem if you're dealing with a lazy pickup.
I did same yesterday. I used the 20/0 mustads all day. We fished on 15 pounds drag for strike. Caught 8 blue sharks and missed one bite. I don't prefer using these circles but my trip yesterday seemed to go just fine so I can't complain too much.
Yes I hear ya on the lazy Bites it had me second guessing! I have lost some blue dogs due to lazy bites but knock on wood no makos yet.. Most of the big makos took the baits aggressive or showed themselves first and i caught them on pitch baits and I quickly put the boat in gear once they took the bait helping to secure the hook .. Here's a pic of pup hooked where its supposed to be..
You hit the nail right on the head Bill. We have no leaders anymore, just politicians...and that goes all the way to the top
I fished Saturday too, had mixed rigs out. I try and remove as many hooks as I can, we usually get back 90 % of the J-Hooks. I was only able to get 1 out of 6 of the circles back.