Newbie to the forum - Help me find my next boat. Looking to move up from an eastbay 37'

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  1. WoundUpMarine

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    That girl has been for sale for a while, I dont know if it fits a lot of the points but it's big, has redundancy, and leaves tons of room in your budget for making it yours and transport.
     
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    You might want to consider more closely the sportfishers like Post 42 and 46:

    46 Post II

    Large beam, plenty of headroom, big cockpit, versatile for cruising and fishing, 3 steps down to open galley, well built, lots to be said for panoramic sundowners on the bridge, likely more accommodating for inlaws and small family, and not too big a step down in luxury and features from your eastbay.

    Drawback is no lower helm. But saving 200K on your budget can go a long way to offset the shortcomings....
     
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    On a wesmac/osmond beal/etc type lobster hull, how much does the length of the boat affect fuel burn? Going from a 42 to a 48, outfitted similarly, similar HP, is the bigger boat generally significantly more thirsty at 17 knots?
     
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    Alright last one.. because I like searching for 40+ ft downeasters...

    2006 Duffy Down East Sport Fish Cruiser Power Boat For Sale -

    This listing sounds like they would take an aggressive offer. Has the size you are looking for, lots of fuel, big HP low hours. Presents a nice blank canvas in the salon to build a galley up and inside driving station to your liking, punch some windows in the front and you have a really cool boat. Also it looks like you could make the current galley down a 3rd stateroom, which is almost unheard of in a DE or you could make it a cool work area storage area, maybe wetsuit hanging locker where the fridge is now. I would think getting a vessel from florida to west coast is much easier than from the northeast.
     
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    I would tune that thing up but current owner would need to take an aggressive offer because she needs a serious influx of cash.
    Make sure he is willing to PAY for the "scheduled" thousand hour service on the C18. That will set you back some benny's for sure.
    That big Duffy would be worth the effort though.
    Good luck.
     
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    I believe an good offer would be taken pretty quick.
     
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    Length itself has little to do with fuel economy. However weight and beam do. A 48' boat would probably weigh 50% more than a 42' boat, and would use at least that much more fuel.

    However if speed is not important, fuel consumption could be very moderate if you traveled at 12 knots vs 18 knots.
     
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    So a 42x14 would burn less fuel than a 42x15, even if the boats weighed the same (understand that them weighing the same is unlikely due to the extra glass and structure, just for purposes of understanding the relative fuel economies)?
     
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    That looks like an awesome boat. Not sure why it didn’t show up in my search terms but thanks for sharing.

    I’ve got a line on a farrin finished boat that’s coming up for sale in a few months to a year that my in-laws and I love but I think might be out of our price range. Sending this link on to everyone to seriously consider. Thank you for sharing.

    I don’t know the pedigree on these boats at all yet but recognize the Beal name. I’m assuming given you shared it that these are very well made boats?
     
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    Without question. All the Beal designs (Willis, Wayne and Calvin) are well regarded. I’m not affiliated with the sale, but just to put this 40 RP in context, with its 15’3” beam, rec. fishing setup (vs. a lobster boat) and sub-$400k asking price, you’re looking at a pretty rare boat for the used DE market.

    You can get that wide beam on the big Wesmacs, but kiss your budget goodbye. You might find another wide beam Beal (probably a Calvin) but odds will be it’s a lobster setup. H&H’s are pretty wide, but not 15’+ as I recall.
     
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    For the sake of argument, could anyone thats done so give me an idea how much I'd have into the most bare bones functional boat if I bought a kit and had it finished to a very basic degree, then outfitted it how I liked over time? I'm looking at the pricing on the Calvin Beal 42 and 44' kits, I'm figuring 80 on the kit by the time I added the upgrades I wanted.

    Just trying to get a sense if I did an extremely spartan wheelhouse with no furniture to start, basic power package, nice electronics and running gear, tanks etc, how much would I be into it for.

    Our local guy is doing a 40' h&h with a 440 hp cummins for a local lobster guy, and estimated it would be a touch over 300 when done. That sounds low to me, even for an extremely spartan set up, but I have no experience in these matters.

    Given I wanted to raise the wheel house ceiling anyways and have a full glass shop on the ranch, part of me is wondering about spending 400 on a boat like the RP40 above, that I'd still have to make changes to and has a lot of gear I'd never use, would I be better off getting a new, but very basic, 42-44 thats functional, then add bunks, furniture, galley, etc over time.

    I also got some info from H&H for ~220 for a very basic 42' boat sans power, and not sure how much adding power would add to that.
     
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    Others that have gone that route will chime in, but I can say that the long lead time from builders has been mentioned in YankeeClipper’s “What is my next boat?” thread.

    You also need to consider (put a value on) what it’s worth to you to have a work-in-progress vs. a mostly ready-to-run vessel.
     
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    We are taking a close look at this boat (the RP40). I have a meeting out that way in a few weeks and am going to detour to see it if its still available at that time.

    One bit of hesitation I had was in the one engine pic, the engine hatch looks like it’s made out fir 2x4s and the supports underneath kinda look like they were added after the fact.

    Is this common in this style boat? How many hours will a common qsm11 in this size boat generally be good for?
     
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