You would need to call the Gloucester office and tell them you have a fish and don't want to sell it. They will send an agent to tag it and take measurements to estimate the weight. It will be counted against the quota of whichever category your in.Worst case scenario - I stick a fish and the markets flooded and no one will take it.
What’s the process for retaining it for personal consumption? I imagine it still needs a tag or somehow have the weight counted against the quota.
Btw - I really don’t want any part of loining out a 500 lb fish, so this is a just in case.
We've never had a fish rejected but how do you know before you got them stuck and tied up? At that point you just cut them off and let them sink to the bottom?One thing that needs to happen for sure is that no permit holder should be bringing skinny fish back to the dock. Last summer was a joke with all the skinny fish hiting the harbors only to be rejected. I think we have forgot what a bf shoud look like. Maybe someone needs to offer up a course. Good excuse for a few beers. Get the photography out of your system and focus on good shape before bring a fish in.
Its a new world leaky. Plenty of fish got rejected last year by the buyers and this year is going to be worse. What a waste of meat. Your total shit fish wont get hoisted by the buyer this year. Releasing skinny fish is a practice we are going to have get use to. We can help alleviate much of that concern by making it a fall fishery. I also dont buy that you cant tell if its skinny or not until after the fish is stuck. Its a lot easier to wrap your head around the idea if you dont have that picture taking mentality. Not saying you but a lot of people have that.We've never had a fish rejected but how do you know before you got them stuck and tied up? At that point you just cut them off and let them sink to the bottom?
Even a total shit fish is $500, pays for a few days of fuel in most of the boats out there fishing for them, better than going home with nothing.
Never heard of anyone cutting a fish loose because they didn't like the look of it. Even a squeaker you run a good chance of losing if you screw around with it much. People actually do that?
Ya well we also don't go when the buyers say don't go, so maybe that helps. Although I think maybe the fish north of cape ann are a little better, generally we hear its a decent fish but market sucks. I hear a lot about low quality "middle bank" fish, not being rejected but just that they are all boots.Its a new world leaky. Plenty of fish got rejected last year by the buyers and this year is going to be worse. What a waste of meat. Your total shit fish wont get hoisted by the buyer this year. Releasing skinny fish is a practice we are going to have get use to. We can help alleviate much of that concern by making it a fall fishery. I also dont buy that you cant tell if its skinny or not until after the fish is stuck. Its a lot easier to wrap your head around the idea if you dont have that picture taking mentality. Not saying you but a lot of people have that.
In the old days we had a fall fishery and you picked your days and the much larger quota always got filled so there is no weather related issues. If your boat is to small get a bigger boat right? CCs were never part of the fishery back in the day. Those junk fish i refered to were right in your back yard. Those post swawn fish. It still remains to be seen if that is going to repeat itself. If it does then you can most likely kiss summer time quota good bye anyway in the future. The virus is just another nail in the coffin.The trouble with the fall fishery is weather is just often dicey, is a much more dangerous time to be doing it. Would definitely help curb supply, hell we likely wouldn't fill our quota many years that way, but like I said not convinced the fish, or prices for sure, are any better in the fall.
I don't know how much we will be doing this year, market is almost surely fucked..
Said it before I think the best solution would be a couple or few days a week all season, no daily limits, then maybe at the end if there is surplus quota you could allow 7 days a week in the fall to make sure we do utilize it I guess.
Limiting days could be part of the answer simply because the quota is so small. Starting the season later could also help. Does anyone care that we have fish spawning in the GOM? I dont see fisherman sticking together. Christ we cant even get fisherman to go to a hearing. The market dictates the price not the buyer. He is not in a position to be negotiating prices. The tariff on imports is interesting for sure. Putting skinniy fish on the dock is not the answer.limiting days to fish is not the answer. starting the season late wont make it better. its not the us market that is screwing the price. fisherman need to stick together not go against each other. everyone deserves their chance to participate in the fishery if they choose. if fisherman band together and either dont fish or choose not to sell their fish to buyers for less than an agreed upon dollar amount, then in a normal situation it would cause the demand and price to go up. problem solved. not the case though. in the bluefin world the buyers will just get fish elsewhere so it doesnt work. if the only supply were US caught fish there would be no issue but thats not the case. slap a tarriff on imports and that would help regulate the market.. best case for the US market til that happens is open it up and when the quota is full it is what it is. make what you can and then earn somewhere else.
Can you get a home run fish in june? Sure, buts its few and far between. The fish caught in the NY blight this week were no prize. It will be interesting to see what the buyers do with red meat fish. There are fish here so they will get caught. I dont think anyone is saying its a big boat fishery. Everyone has a right but dont plan a quota around summer months because the weather is nicer. That would be a mistake.Saw plenty of social media posts today about guys gearing up and ready to “get after em” on June 1st so we’ll see if the buyers really arnt buying. Also, I don’t get the “this is a big boat fishery” because I feel like now a days it’s actually a skiff fishery with the prices we’re getting. Costs me under $50 a day to go fish alongside these 3-400k “commercial” rigs and I’m making money no problem at $5/lb. same thing as catching 3 crates of bugs but with a quarter of the work
Haha oh I thought about them but figured that piece of history was not furthering the worth of a small boat fishery."Even going back 20 years ago, before the fish just became harder to catch for awhile, there were lots of center consoles and small boats in the fishery weren't there?"
Go back to the Moonies. Small boats with no engines being towed out. A past shit show.